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docshane
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I read with interest the statement: "was no one ever dies of aids, they die of a cold or something else.."

This is somewhat true. Let's talk about an aspect of this that I know about. Many aids patients die of an infection different from the AIDS (if you have AIDS you definitely have HIV). These are called "Opportunistic Infections". Fungal infections are part of opportunistic infections.

I was once told by an infectious disease physician in San Francisco that more AIDS patients die from fungal and other opportunistic infections than actual AIDS infection.

Think about intravenous drug users and snorters. Heroin, cocaine and the like all have massive amounts of fungi in them (there are plenty of papers supporting this). When you inject these fungi into an already immunocompromised person the results are often devastating.

Yet another reason not to inject or snort!

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I always let my client know mold testing is available.
If I see mold I do not recommend testing unless there is a specific purpose, as mentioned above, evidence/proof of mold or if they are working with doctor for health issues. They can take the lab results to their doctor.
I also have tested for mold at the insistence of my client where I thought there were no possible issues and the lab results proved different.
So I always recommend mold testing, whether i suspect an issue or not.

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Perfectly reasonable position Cliff. Welcome to the Forum.

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photoutah wrote:
If I see mold I do not recommend testing unless there is a specific purpose...
...So I always recommend mold testing, whether i suspect an issue or not.

Nathan wrote:Perfectly reasonable position Cliff.

I get it... Wait, what?

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I think he recommends testing for liability reasons and only suggests testing when there's a question to be answered

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Nathan, you worded it much simpler. That is correct.

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Ahh. That's clearer.

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SheehanThomson wrote:I guess the west coast doesn't have insurance companies asking for all of that.

I rarely have a mortgage or insurance company even request the reports I do.


I don't think that's what he means. Were talking about a rare situation, which happen to all of us at certain times. What if someone gets very sick or years down the road has there is a larger issue with the same mold. Will you want that paperwork specifically stating all the important information when it comes time to prove your side of the story or will your word be good enough...

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There are two really good reasons to test for mold:

1. The seller lacks motivations to solve a problem that in their mind does not exist. A lab result can confirm your clients fears and motivate the seller to correct.

2. Landlords will often assume that the mold problem is invented by the tenant to avoid paying their rent. I have unfortunately deal with many of that mindset. And to be fair, there are tenants that are looking for an excuse not to pay their rent.

I'm ordering the equipment this week. Been talking to Michael and Eric and after doing my research, I'm sold. 1 more service to offer my clients very soon.

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Welcome to the club. Expect some interesting calls from EMSL and ProLab since you posted here. They stalk

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Henry "Sonny" Toman wrote:
2. Landlords will often assume that the mold problem is invented by the tenant to avoid paying their rent. I have unfortunately deal with many of that mindset. And to be fair, there are tenants that are looking for an excuse not to pay their rent.

The problem is performing a test on the landlord's property when they don't want to give permission for you to access it. The tenant doesn't have authority to give that permission. Emergency repair clauses in leases don't cover mold and how could they?

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I did a follow-up on a house I inspected where the new tenant said there was mold.

I got there and she had done one of those hardware store tests.

Mold is everywhere and you need an outside control sample correct? Even if there was mold on her $10 kit doesn't mean it's a problem?

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They don't require an outside control because they're not an air test. The home test kits are usually a swab and petri dish test which would confirm whether mold was present and give you the types found.
SheehanThomson wrote:Mold is everywhere and you need an outside control sample correct? Even if there was mold on her $10 kit doesn't mean it's a problem?

Correct. Your visual inspection will more likely determine that.

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Cameron Anderson wrote:
Henry "Sonny" Toman wrote:
2. Landlords will often assume that the mold problem is invented by the tenant to avoid paying their rent. I have unfortunately deal with many of that mindset. And to be fair, there are tenants that are looking for an excuse not to pay their rent.

The problem is performing a test on the landlord's property when they don't want to give permission for you to access it. The tenant doesn't have authority to give that permission. Emergency repair clauses in leases don't cover mold and how could they?


How is a tenant not allowed to test air in the home they occupy?

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I suppose they can personally do it themselves. But no lease I have ever used or read allows the tenant to hire work to be performed in the landlord's property. I don't allow it in my leases. Emergency repairs only if I'm not available or responding to a written request from the tenant. I won't enter a property without the owner's permission.

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